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« on: Jun 18, 12, 08:00 PM »

Check the weather forecast before starting to dig out for a new pond ....



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« Reply #1 on: Jun 18, 12, 08:52 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: Jun 18, 12, 09:03 PM »

Into thick clay as well so we had to pump it out
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« Reply #3 on: Jun 18, 12, 09:14 PM »

thick clay


The garden here is mainly clay...
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« Reply #4 on: Jun 18, 12, 10:38 PM »

When I dug mine out you didn't so much dig as cut blocks of clay out and stack them above the pond to make the next level. All my area is clay. But I dug mine in the old days when you had fine weather in the summer and wet weather in the winter. Smiley Now all the seasons are blending into one another. Stick some further piccies up as you progress - I like to see how ponds work out.
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« Reply #5 on: Jun 19, 12, 01:40 AM »

And I'd like an audio-recording of the language next time it rains before you're ready  Yup













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« Reply #6 on: Jun 19, 12, 05:37 AM »

Stick some further piccies up as you progress - I like to see how ponds work out.

Will do, we've calculated the volume, chosen the pump, filter and liner but although we've pumped it out it was so soft and squishy at the bottom I don't know when Julie will be able to stand up long enough to dig.

My project is over the other side of the garden, a circular paved area in front of the conservatory. That involves mixing concrete and laying bricks; yesterday I was of the distinct feeling that I'm getting too old for mixing concrete with a shovel.
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« Reply #7 on: Jun 19, 12, 05:40 AM »

And I'd like an audio-recording of the language next time it rains before you're ready  Yup
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You'd probably be disappointed, Julie is a lady, but you might hear laughter followed by a dull thud and silence.
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« Reply #8 on: Jun 19, 12, 06:50 AM »

You'd probably be disappointed, Julie is a lady, but you might hear laughter followed by a dull thud and silence.

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« Reply #9 on: Jun 19, 12, 08:55 AM »

The female of the species is more deadly than the male...

Specially with a well aimed spade  Eek!
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« Reply #10 on: Jun 19, 12, 09:07 AM »

Specially with a well aimed spade  Eek!

Sounds like natural justice to me.

And you'd fit in that hole no problems, once the money from your house is in the bank.  paranoid
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« Reply #11 on: Jun 25, 12, 11:52 AM »

Oooops ....


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« Reply #12 on: Jun 25, 12, 11:54 AM »

So guess what I did yesterday ...


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« Reply #13 on: Jun 25, 12, 02:32 PM »

Hope you saved the water to put back in to save on water bill,  giggle
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« Reply #14 on: Jun 25, 12, 03:18 PM »

Unfortunately no, but we do have 5 water butts and they were already full to overflowing.
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« Reply #15 on: Jun 25, 12, 03:46 PM »

Big butts like the Kardashian women ?. Then you are well stocked with spare water.. giggle
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« Reply #16 on: Jun 25, 12, 03:52 PM »

At least you know that it holds water
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« Reply #17 on: Jun 26, 12, 05:57 PM »

Not as bad as mine - I bought a second hand pond liner cos of the stupid cost of getting one big enough and spent all day with 3 hosepipes running from morning till night to fill it. Woke the next morning to find most of the water had gone, despite it being set into clay! At least then I found the leaks before going much further and went on to find 10 holes where it looked like it had been nailed to something at one time. Fortunately it has held water for the last 14 years or so without a repeat performance (except for when my pump pumped nearly all the water out one night - but that is a story for another time Smiley  )
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« Reply #18 on: Jun 26, 12, 06:21 PM »

At least you know that it holds water

Well puddled, well puddled.

We do still want to use a liner because we don't want things to grow into the clay nor have all the sediments that a clay puddled pond would have.
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« Reply #19 on: Jun 26, 12, 06:26 PM »

Not as bad as mine ...

I've been advised to use a sand underlay to prevent stone penetration, but Julie has used cheap duvets before without a problem (she's had 2 ponds before).

The liner that we have in our wish list comes with underlay.
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« Reply #20 on: Jun 26, 12, 06:35 PM »

I used old carpets underneath my liners - they stink something orrible if you disturb them! But they give excellent protection and mine came at my fave price - free!

If you need any water to fill it back up with there is this listed on eBay - item 150839073912 - but seeing as you is not that far away from me water is not exactly in short supply at the moment. Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: Jun 26, 12, 06:42 PM »

The best pond fuck up I've ever seen was a friend of my brother... he was part-way through getting the liner laid and bedded in when he saw rain forecast, and it was going to arrive long before he expected to be finished.

He had a wonderful brainwave... he erected his tent - sans groundsheet - over the partially completed project so the embryonic pond didn't fill with water before the liner was bedded... that would risk tearing the vinyl (not butyl rubber) liner.

It worked rather too well.

The groundwater rose under the near weightless liner and it floated out of the tent and away towards the river...
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« Reply #22 on: Jun 26, 12, 07:01 PM »

but seeing as you is not that far away from me water is not exactly in short supply at the moment. Smiley

We have 5 water butts full to over flowing that we can use.
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« Reply #23 on: Jul 08, 12, 06:08 PM »

Round 3....

Put the pump in, turned the pump on and waited. When it was down to just the squidge at the very bottom I laid on the plank I'd put across the hole and lifted the float switch to turn the pump back on.

It was then that the discharge hose blew off of the outlet and the partly submerged pump sent a column of clay sludge upwards and in my general direction ........


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« Reply #24 on: Jul 08, 12, 06:33 PM »

Are you sure you want to continue with this pond..........after all, the Pond Gods seem to be going out of their way to make life difficult for you.  Raises hat Grin
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